Posts by The Fall Guy

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First time here - My Story (Spousal Abuse)

by Centaurus A in

hi everyone, this is my first time here and only in the last 2 weeks have my eyes been opened.

still trying to take in all this new info.

anyways here is my very condensed story:.

The Fall Guy

Hi Centaurus A, welcome I hope your journey in life gets easier as you go on.

If you aren't worried about being disfellowshipped/shunned by relatives, say and do whatever you feel is right.

On the other hand, if you want to help your dad, you can only do so as long as you are careful with what you say and how you say it. Present ideas to him as questions, not as facts or (justifiable) criticisms. Get him thinking.

You have a PM with some topics to consider for use as questions.

Best wishes for your future.

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

The Fall Guy

@ Nevuela - for Bible Students living between 1880 - 1914, Russell promised them that the GT and Armageddon was coming soon - in 1914 & then 1915..

Bible students between 1919-25 were promised similar by Rutherford and that the resurrection would take place in 1925.

Jehovah's Witnesses were seriously primed by the WTBTS, Fred Franz, Nathan Knorr et al to expect the end to come in 1975 and before the end of the 20th century.

The WTBTS/JW's should be in the Guinness Book of World Records - for being the world's most prolific and humiliated Christian denomination when predicting the end of this world.

No surprise then if we suddenly hear of another "it's so near" prediction.

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Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

by SuperGirl in

just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

the religion has become a nut house.

The Fall Guy

Welcome to the forum - and to the rest of your life!

Don't change - continue being the caring and reasonable person your story shows, and let the shunners see that life is ~~good~~ better without them.

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Jehovah's Witness core Doctrine has changed over time. Has Dogma changed?

by TerryWalstrom in

first things first!let us define our terms: doctrine and dogma.doctrine: a codification of beliefs, taught principles, or positions.

dogma a set of principles laid down by an authority (in this case, the governing body, acting as the faithful slave of christ) as incontrovertibly true.

_____in the catholic church, dogma never changes but doctrines have over time.this sets me to wondering.

The Fall Guy

In 1914, God & Jesus looked down on the earth and examined every Christian-based religion. During the next 4 years or so, they decided that a new religion created by a U.S. millionaire businessman (whose predictions of Armageddon & rapture failed miserably in 1914 & 1915) was the best of a bad bunch. In 1918-9, the religion was the subject of a coup d'état by a lawyer who used it as a great business opportunity. (but whose predictions of the Biblical resurrection in 1925 also failed miserably!) This was good enough for God and Jesus, so they decided that JFR and his cronies would be divinely appointed as "the faithful slave" within "God's earthly organization."

All of the above is factual and provable by scriptures! No arguments - otherwise I'll shun you.

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WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

by JustHuman14 in

i left wt, 18 years ago.

never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

The Fall Guy

WT lies about anything which questions/challenges its claim of being "God's organization on earth".

JW's are warned that the internet & media only present lies about them. The faithful slave-masters in Warwick also forbid JW's from researching & discussing the org's teachings and doctrines. (Sept. 2007 KM - Question Box)

Acceptance without question is mandatory for all JW's - and any potential recruits.

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If you are reading this Courtney and Helene

by newsheep in

please please contact us by private messaging us.

we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.

courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.

The Fall Guy

All of us here will wish Courtney & Helene the very best as they start out on a new life - freed from the org's crushing shackles. May they get as much support as they need, now that they're on their own.

They must have been suffering as they woke up to dark side of the WTBTS.

The JW machine goes into its usual attack mode - shoot the messenger, but don't address what he said. (because it'll probably be true!)

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How would you reason with a JW that it is okay to say Good Luck?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?.

The Fall Guy

Try this during a conversation with a JW - perform a fake sneeze and see if they say "Bless you."

I've heard JW's instinctively say this to sneezers over the years.

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Commuter Bethelite video

by no-zombie in

for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

The Fall Guy

Wow, at 16 minutes in the video Brother Leonard Nimoy (Mr. Spock) talks to the congregation - boldly going where no woman has gone before!

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UK Welfare Benefit

by The Fall Guy in

the department for work and pensions has acknowledged that some universal credit claimants struggle to pay for the amount of ink which their printers use when completing lengthy dwp forms.. as such, these claimants can now apply for ink capacity benefit!

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The Fall Guy

The Department for Work and Pensions has acknowledged that some Universal Credit claimants struggle to pay for the amount of ink which their printers use when completing lengthy DWP forms.

As such, these claimants can now apply for ink capacity benefit!

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March 2019 WT

by The Fall Guy in

another mind-numbing edition with instructions on how adult jw's should be conducting themselves as "christians.

i did like this paragraph though - after some reading between the lines:.

page 11, par.

The Fall Guy

Another mind-numbing edition with instructions on how adult JW's should be conducting themselves as "Christians."

I did like this paragraph though - after some reading between the lines:

Page 11, par. 12 - ~~God’s organization~~ the WT parasite-elite has made many ~~adjustments~~ reversals of "truths" in recent years, including the use of ~~new tools~~ long-existing technology and methods in our ministry, the ~~format~~ dumbing-down of our midweek meeting, and the way we build, renovate, and ~~maintain~~ sell off ~~our~~ the org's Kingdom Halls.